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Tombs Trivia Criticized for Offensive Content

The Tombs issued an apology for offensive statements made during its Trivia Night on Nov. 4 and promised changes in the future to prevent the incident from recurring.

The weekly trivia night, which occurs each Tuesday, invites patrons to form their own teams, create names and answer questions. Occasionally, the trivia host asks an open-ended bonus question, which, rather than being awarded points based on correctness, is judged based on laughs from the audience. Last Tuesday, in the bonus round, the host asked the question, “What issue would you add to a candidate’s platform?” Audience responses included the elimination of the NAACP, the Rodney King beating and responses trivializing sexual assault.

“It was that perfect trifecta of racial injustice, police brutality and rape. And what was very concerning was that the trivia host was laughing as well as pretty much most people attending trivia,” Nora West (SFS’15), who tweeted at The Tombs to bring the issue to the restaurant’s attention, said.

Nicole Chenelle (COL ’15), who attended the event, said that she was stunned by the nature of the comments.

“I was disheartened, upset and very shocked,” Chenelle said. “I thought those comments went beyond any small culturally insensitive thing that could be misinterpreted.”

Erin Riordan (COL ’15), who was not in attendance at last week’s trivia night but has gone to Tombs Trivia Night before, noted that the problem had come up in the past and was primarily prevalent in the bonus round.

“I went to Tombs trivia a lot in the spring, and every single time I went, something offensive and degrading and really violent was said,” she said. “Generally speaking, the rounds that are predetermined questions with written-down answers are not offensive in the way that the bonus round is.”

Noting that complaints had been made before, West criticized the restaurant for only acting retroactively.

“They’re willing to apologize, but they’re not willing to eliminate the Bonus Round or talk seriously about censoring what is submitted,” West said. “It seems to me they deal with this as a [public relations] issue instead of as a community issue.”

Tombs Manager Alex Jacobs was not present during trivia night but said that the restaurant was taking the complaints seriously.

“It is important that everybody come in and feel safe and comfortable at The Tombs. If somebody is trying to be funny at the expense of someone else, we’re going to try and censor those comments,” Jacobs said.

He said that the restaurant would institute changes to the trivia night and would be having discussions with the hosts to prevent similar comments from being aired.

“The DJ decided to read all the answers to the question, so we’re going to have to make sure that we’re filtering those. Also, the team names have been kind of racy in the past. We need to make sure we’re on the safe side and make sure we’re not alienating any of our guests,” Jacobs said. “We need to make sure our DJs exercise better judgment, and if they have any questions, they bring it to management so that we’re` not giving anyone a soapbox to be insensitive.”

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    AnonNov 13, 2014 at 12:00 am

    I ask this sincerely of people against the jokes at the Tombs: what are your thoughts on comedians like Louis CK or Dave Chappelle or various rap artists whose comedy or songs are about race and objectifying women (and in my assessment, more offensive than the Tombs jokes mentioned in the article)?

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    TombsBetchNov 12, 2014 at 3:12 pm

    Well… at least I can go to Tombs now and joke about misogynistic homophobic racist white people.

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    • S

      ScaevolaNov 12, 2014 at 5:49 pm

      I’m sure we’ll all be laughing at your comedic genius.

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  • F

    feelings > rightsNov 12, 2014 at 2:13 pm

    I sincerely hope the commenter who named herself “PC Police” does actually take her business elsewhere, along with all others who feel similarly. I do not want my Tuesday-night hangout to become yet another platform for self-important college ideologues to impose their feelings-based morality on me.

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  • S

    ScaevolaNov 12, 2014 at 1:21 pm

    @PC Police

    You most definitely have the right to take your business elsewhere, and I’m sure it is the earnest hope of most of these commenters that people who cannot take a joke exercise that right with all haste. The Tombs will not be worse for wear, I assure you.

    – Vigila Hunc

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  • D

    DeerWhitePeopleNov 12, 2014 at 11:57 am

    Sometimes I forget: People are racist.

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    hoyalumNov 12, 2014 at 9:48 am

    The Hoya reports a “brutal rape” as a “sexual assault” and now it fails to report the offensive content? Why?

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    PC PoliceNov 12, 2014 at 6:55 am

    You have every right to be politically incorrect. But I have every right to demand an establishment I frequent do something about it – and if they don’t act, I can take my business elsewhere. Consumer activism at its finest.

    The more worrying question is why everyone seems to be pushing this rights-based language about rapey and racist comments. Even if you have the right to say stupid, uncreative things, is there really something funny about trivializing police beatings or rape? Maybe…if you’re the average rich suburban white kid who attends Tombs and you don’t have to worry about anything beyond the ability to keep charging pitchers to Daddy’s credit card.

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    • F

      feelings > rightsNov 12, 2014 at 2:15 pm

      Please do take your business elsewhere.

      I just found out there was a “reply” feature to comments.

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    Oh Come OnNov 12, 2014 at 2:07 am

    Holy God the politically correct crowd on campus is annoying. They’re free speech crusaders until they hear something that offends them, then demand that independent establishments bend over backwards to cater to their victim complexes.
    Tombs has nothing to apologize for.

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    DavidNov 11, 2014 at 4:56 pm

    “what was very concerning was that the trivia host was laughing as well as pretty much most people attending trivia.” So why are they apologizing for a well made joke? People shouldn’t have to give up freedom of speech for a vocal minority who gets offended at any and all instances of political incorrectness.

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      Fed-Up HoyaNov 12, 2014 at 2:08 pm

      There is a difference between freedom of speech and hate speech, David. Calling for the abolishment of the NAACP as your ‘platform in an election’, joking about rape one block from a campus where 1 in 5 women will have survived this type of violence by the time that they leave the hilltop for good, and supporting police brutality, which still occurs in this country DAILY crosses from bad taste, to intentional speech made to make traditionally otherized groups feel that certain spaces are not welcome to them. As you have a right to your free speech, do I also not have the right to feel safe in the places that I choose to go? I applaud the three students from above for being brave enough to exercise their rights to free speech on a campus where some view it as a right reserved to the privileged majority. Furthermore, I hope that when you laugh at these well made jokes, you begin to consider those in a room who feel triggered by those comments, and some who feel taken back to the worst times in their life. I also think that the Tombs taking a long look at its policies deserves acknowledgement. I’m glad that they remain committed to serving all legal members of Georgetown’s community, rather than just some.

      Censorship ain’t great, but neither is living in a world where going to a bar to be with friends and have a beer means that you are subjected to the racist and misogynistic ideations of those around you.

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      • D

        Do ResearchNov 12, 2014 at 2:22 pm

        Please do your research before using oft-cited yet widely debunked statistics regarding the prevalence of sexual assault on college campuses. Is it an issue? Absolutely. But you’re doing the movement no favors by using the preposterous one-in-five stat.

        Source: https://time.com/2934500/1-in-5%E2%80%82campus-sexual-assault-statistic/

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        MisquotedNov 12, 2014 at 4:47 pm

        Just for the record, whoever contributed to this article clearly misquoted the team that supposedly called for the “abolishment of the NAACP.” The platform was actually, “the second NAACP: National Association for the Advancement of Colorblind People.” That was literally the platform and that was how it was read out by the host. However funny/not funny/ offensive that platform is, it is irresponsible to improperly quote someone just to contribute to making a point.

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        GuestNov 12, 2014 at 4:52 pm

        the 1 in 5 sexual assault statistic is misleading

        It cannot really be applied to Georgetown, the study was done at two major public universities and the response rates of those school were around ~45%, which may lead to selection bias

        sources:
        https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/no-1-in-5-women-have-not-been-raped-on-college-campuses/article/2551980

        https://time.com/2934500/1-in-5%E2%80%82campus-sexual-assault-statistic/

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        • F

          Fed-Up HoyaNov 12, 2014 at 5:16 pm

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            another studentNov 12, 2014 at 11:27 pm

            You are literally citing a citation of this statistic. That means nothing. Please look at the above articles to understand how much the methodology of these studies limits its gravitas.

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            Seriously, Do ResearchNov 13, 2014 at 12:16 pm

            It would behoove you to critically read what you post sometimes. The linked study is nothing but a citation of the flawed statistic mentioned above. The science behind it is staggeringly deficient.

          • S

            Seriously, think about your own "research"Nov 13, 2014 at 5:15 pm

            The main complaint in the article you posted is that only half the people responded to the “1-in-5” survey. So, at best, the survey would have shown 1-in-10 if everyone responded.

            Even if you take the ridiculous alternative 1-in-40 number at face value (ignoring the biases of the American Enterprises Institute), that’s 2.5% of women.

            What’s the threshold at which it becomes funny? <5%? <10%? I'm just curious because I want to know whether it's okay for me to laugh at your well-made sexual assault jokes.

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            GuestNov 14, 2014 at 5:11 pm

            It’s not just the selection bias that occurs when 45% are taking the survey, it is also that it was at two major public universities. Therefore it is incredibly inaccurate to say “joking about rape one block from a campus where 1 in 5 women…”. because we are not one of those two major public universities.

            Also, if we had to take into account everyone’s (even that 5%-10%) feelings when making jokes, there wouldn’t be too much joking going on.

            Don’t take life too seriously and relax.

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          A SurvivorNov 12, 2014 at 11:11 pm

          As a Sexual Assault Peer Educator at Georgetown (S.A.P.E, it’s a thing you should visit the Women’s Center more often), the statistic AT Georgetown is that 1 in 5 women will be sexually assaulted before they leave the Hilltop.

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            What's your source?Nov 13, 2014 at 12:14 pm

            I would love to see the study and methodology behind that claim.

          • C

            cite something, anythingNov 13, 2014 at 12:34 pm

            Anecdotal evidence presented anonymously on the internet surely trumps peer-reviewed papers.

          • S

            SourceNov 15, 2014 at 1:18 pm

            The source is the national college health assessment survey which is sent to two thousand Georgetown students every other year. Georgetown and hundreds of other schools across the country use it to get statistics on all sorts of issues, the number of students experiencing stalking, drinking, drugs etc. The results of the survey is an internal university document, so it is not published, but if you go to Health Education Services they have all of the information. The number is 1/5 for women and 1/33 for men.

            It’s great that you’re so concerned about this issue. Georgetown should be held to the standard that one is too many, but thanks for checking in. God forbid an environment of care and concern for survivors be created. We all know that if it was 1/6 sexual assault would no longer be a problem at Georgetown.

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            Source?Nov 16, 2014 at 2:34 am

            “but if you go to Health Education Services they have all of the information”

            Can you provide the link please? That is not enough for me to believe you.

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          DeerWhitePeopleNov 14, 2014 at 2:42 pm

          Sometimes I forget: People nitpick lol. #Forestforthetreesbro

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    GuestNov 11, 2014 at 4:04 pm

    Is “offensive” the most overused word in society in 2014? I’m trying to think of one that’s more used for BS reasons. I’m offended by people being so thin skinned.

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    ScaevolaNov 11, 2014 at 3:42 pm

    The students quoted here are also the same sort of students who passionately advocate for “Freedom of Speech” at Georgetown, which I find ironic. Only speech that offends those on the left on campus should be stifled, of course.

    Yes, there are inappropriate comments made at Tombs trivia. Yes, they should probably not be made. But to say that the Tombs is to blame for people being offended is patently ridiculous, and is reflective of the grievance culture we have here. When in doubt, when offended, when questioned – blame someone, or shame them into silence.

    The onus should be on the inappropriate individuals to clean up their act, not the Tombs to act as the feelings police.

    – Vigila Hunc

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    Be Sensitive, But Don't Ban All HumorNov 11, 2014 at 2:02 pm

    Agreed with Seriously, and of course the people interviewed are the political correctness police

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  • S

    Seriously?Nov 11, 2014 at 4:11 am

    Are we really going to censor people at a bar for fear of political incorrectness now? Have none of the complainers played Cards Against Humanity before?

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